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Velofel quality they do tend to wear even after a month so that would be a constant replacement just remember that one guys that's where I'd obviously advise getting something that is a lot thicker either by LG hangout or myself the total man sleeves and they will last you lifetime that you'd probably need to use the AES which is quite a lot which is really good all righty moving on to the fellas and Forte plus now the size of the pelvic of ring due to the fact that you're putting all that pressure right to the pelvis right at the fat pad now you want that to be as as comfortable as possible so the smaller the surface area the more uncomfortable it's going to be in this particular unit as you can see is quite small speaking of small the opening 



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